A 416 dilemma. What to do?

[Earl K]

I called Bill to ask about it. He said he was pretty sure they remagnetized them, but they could have slipped thru. So I sent them back. They zapped them again. But they hardly changed at all. So I had to pay for the 2nd remag. Both Bill's measurements and mine show weak magnets, one more than the other.

So here they sit, fresh cones, weak magnets. What to do with them?
I can not honestly sell them knowing the magnets are shot. Or may I can list them on eBay cheap with full disclosure? Really don't know what to do with them. Would like to get a little money back out of them, but do not want to cheat the next owner. Right now they're just taking up shelf space.

So both 416-8a(s) have weak magnets according to Bills measurements and can't hold a charge .

Some conjecture ; perhaps some 416s from the LTV era just had less magnet to begin with . That wouldn't be that far fetched IMO .

Remember, this is the same management team that thought it was a brilliant idea ( not ! ) to create the 804/806 by removing alnico ( surplus really ???? ) from the 802 to then foist upon the unsuspecting buying public ( who by & large at the time, had little measurement capacity to understand the consequences ).

- What to do ? DIY forum has a lot of guys in love with the OB concept ( usually using high Qtc drivers ) . Your Qtc figures show your woofers are now closer to that OP standard .
- Market your woofers to them as a compromise solution ( some guys want their cake & the ability to eat it also / ie ; want Altec with its historical low Qtc(s) but then implement them in OBs which require high Qtc ) .

<> cheers

[airboss]

You'll spend more money probably but here's a plan. Watch E-Flea for early (no step to cast supports) 418B, I think they are the same mag structure and I'm sure they are the same basket. I've seen blown 418B (white ones) go for $35. Green ones are rare. I have no idea how the magnets come off, but some research may make this hairbrained scheme a viable plan.

Dan

[gearfreak]

I like the OB (thinking outside) of the box idea.
Simiarly, maybe they'd be useful as passive radiators for someone?

(perhaps requires removal of the magnets... possible?, never uncorked mine to see what was underneath the cover)

[Panomaniac]

Well, I have thought about open baffle. "Rare! Altec Open Baffle Woofers!"
Not the best choice, but hey, I've seen lots of guys run less optimum woofers on OB and love it.

Also thinking about the magnet. Does it come off? Will it go back on straight? You know that bolt you can see thru the hole in the dust cover. Does it hold the magnet on?

Gotta measure them again.
Still thinkin'......

[bfish]

Chunk 'em and chalk it up... life goes on.

If you want, I'll send coordinates to my Cache of Monumental Failures. There's always room for more.